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Coroner, Health Department Release Statement on Rodas

Vassil Pertchinkov, Guido's co-owner, also issues statement.

Statement from the LA County Department of Public Health and the Department of Coroner 

The Los Angeles County Department of Public Health is working with the Los Angeles County Department of Coroner in reviewing the case of an employee of Guido’s Restaurant in Malibu, who died on March 18, 2012. Public Health has not found any problem that would increase the risk to the public’s health, nor has it found any public health reason to close the restaurant. The Department of Coroner is awaiting the results of microscopic tissue studies and biological laboratory cultures to aid in the determination of manner and cause of death. No further information is available for release at this time.

Statement from Guido's co-owner, Vassil Pertchinkov

To Patrons, Friends and otherwise anyone concerned:

We here at Guidos are very saddened by the loss of our employee, Carlos Rodas. We want to let everyone know that the health department has been out to inspect our restaurant following this incident. We want you to know that we are committed to your health and safety. We have not been advised by any agency that we should shut our doors as a result of Carlos’death. We remain open for business and we hope to see all of you in the restaurant soon. 

 

Alessandra DeClario March 24, 2012 at 05:58 AM
"It can't happen here, it can't happen here".... Zappa
Candace Brown March 24, 2012 at 07:32 AM
Shame on Patch. One should be required to leave their first AND last name in order to submit comments. Honest people do not need to hide behind pseudonyms.
Wendi Werner March 24, 2012 at 02:37 PM
I agree with Candice
Linda Vallejo March 24, 2012 at 04:49 PM
I keep bringing Mitrice up because I witnessed all the deliberate lying. LASD said there was miscommunication at the site because of cell reception. I was at site from 5:30 to when they airlifted her remains, standing by a deputy. HE WAS TALKING ON HIS CELL getting instructions. DOES THIS SOUND LIKE NO RECEPTION. There was no miscommunication regarding this scene -- it is called deliberate lying. Capt. Stevens went before the city council & said there was a public phone in the lobby when questioned by them for policy change - NOT SO. (Council mtngs on video). I have been to the station. Where there should be a public phone on wall was only the imprint of it. A Malibu resident also concurred with photos, so then Capt. Stevens backtracked & said it was on the desk. You can always tell when the LASD is lying -- they're moving their lips. A lot of the rookies are great, but like they told me -- they're on the low rung. LASD STARTED ALL THESE SPECULATIONS by opening their mouths by giving their diagnosis. How about saying "We don't know yet." They've created this spin in Malibu causing division among the residents. We need to band together, regardless of what we think because they would love us to get distracted from the issue, like arguing whether someone has a real name or photo here. REALLY?! LASD are spinners of distraction and good at it.
Lightnapper March 24, 2012 at 05:45 PM
I get a kick out of comments like this. Here's a thought. For many individuals, unnecessarily exposing yourself in the "social media" is foolhardy and sometimes dangerous. The world has crazy people with intentions not based in reality. It's way too easy to "locate" someone. Why help them? Type your name into Spokeo-- see what comes up. That's just the beginning! Post a comment an "unstable" person does not like, does not agree with, or misconstrues-- and a whole can-of-worms can open up. Additionally, people often discriminate based upon age, gender, race, sexual orientation, religion, and economic or social status. Retaliation can and does occur. One example is employment. Employers use "social media" sites to monitor employees and to screen potential employees. Would you want your source of income affected because you offered a counterpoint ideology or opinion, or because your lifestyle was not "mainstream?" Patch has their format. Don't like it. Don't participate. It's just like a TV or a radio-- you can turn it off. Besides-- who cares what the commenter's "real" name is? I read the comments for what they express-- whether I agree or not. Thankfully, we are free to comment-- even in PC Malibu. The bottom line-- if any untoward, illegal, or nefarious activity were to occur, law enforcement would access Patch's database and retrieve pertinant information for an investigation. The editor can also censor "hate" speech. And there is always the "Flag" for the overly sensitive.
Barrie Livingstone March 24, 2012 at 06:30 PM
Susan, Your a great PR. If in doubt scrub it out. This whole story has been so awfully depressing as we realize how we can not depend on media for truth. From a shooting on the news, to a gang beating to an embolism or whatever we just feel for the poor man that lost his life in our beloved back garden and cant help but wonder if those hoses should be brought out. i say bring them out. Susan your a genious
J. Flo March 24, 2012 at 06:39 PM
I agree with Candace, too. 100%.
Jonathan Friedman March 24, 2012 at 06:59 PM
I disagree with Candace, although I like her. Brantley has enough to do. Even if we required names, some people would just give fake names with one of the throwaway email address you can now easily obtain. You want Patch editors to start drilling people on their identity and demanding proof? That's a little much.
hellwood March 24, 2012 at 07:09 PM
@jon very true, but ID is necessary for credibility. a profile photo, and contact info helps as well. otherwise you are just another troll with an agenda
Jonathan Friedman March 24, 2012 at 07:13 PM
Hellwood, I agree with you. I always value posts with actual names (picture not needed) higher. But that is up to the poster. If you want credibility, use your real name. And if you don't think somebody is credible because he/she/it uses a fake name, it is probably best to ignore the person.
Jonathan Friedman March 24, 2012 at 07:15 PM
For your first item, that's opinion pieces, not a forum. On your second item, that's not true. I just tested on Huffington Post. I posted something and it went straight on the site. And neither of those have anything to do with verifying who people are.
Jonathan Friedman March 24, 2012 at 07:16 PM
The post above was in response to my good friend J. Flora-Katz. I'm not sure why it's placed second and says I wrote it after I responded to Hellwood.
Reza Gostar March 24, 2012 at 07:18 PM
FYI, you can contact people by posting a message to their Patch profile, Patch reroutes comments to their email addresses.
J. Flo March 24, 2012 at 07:18 PM
HUFFINGTON POST COMMENTING POLICY http://www.huffingtonpost.com/faq/#moderation A: Community and Commenting Guiding Principles The Huffington Post has a thriving user community and actively encourages commenting on news stories and blog posts. We are dedicated to this community and strive to maintain a respectful, engaging and informative conversation. Towards that end, we have general guidelines for commenting. They are enforced 24/7 by a moderating system that features a team of staff and community moderators, and moderation tools. If you wish to participate in the community, we ask that you follow the guidelines below and the spirit of the community they seek to create. (I) If your comments consistently or intentionally make this community a less civil and enjoyable place to be, you and your comments will be excluded from it.
J. Flo March 24, 2012 at 07:20 PM
Continued - edited down > Everyone is welcome and encouraged to voice their opinion regardless of identity, politics, ideology, religion or agreement with other community members, the author of the post or staff members as long as those opinions are respectful and constructively add to the conversation. However, this community does not tolerate direct or indirect attacks, name-calling or insults, nor does it tolerate intentional attempts to derail, hijack, troll or bait others into an emotional response. These types of comments will be removed from the community where warranted. Individuals who consistently or intentionally post these types of comments will be warned and, if necessary, excluded from the community. (II) Many comments are pre-moderated. To maintain a civil atmosphere, our moderation team may read comments before they are displayed to other users. If this is the case, you may see your comment pending approval. Approval times can vary depending on the site-wide comment load, so please be patient -- we will get to all comments as quickly as possible. (IV) Be yourself, only yourself, and just one of yourself. Every person's opinion is valuable and unique. Pretending to be someone else removes that unique value from you or from others. Don't misrepresent yourself or others, spread mis-information, create multiple accounts or "astroturf". If you do, you will make the community a less enjoyable and valuable place to be and will be removed when we see it.
Jonathan Friedman March 24, 2012 at 07:21 PM
J. It says "many comments" are moderated. Apparently the meaning of "many" is fairly loose since I just posted on three different HuffPo threads, and all went on immediately.
Jonathan Friedman March 24, 2012 at 07:21 PM
Anyhow, I don't want this thread to go too far off track. If anybody wants to further debate commenting policies, feel free to email Brantley or me.
J. Flo March 24, 2012 at 07:23 PM
For many years they had a policy of approving all comments before posting, but with millions of postings that undoubtedly proved impossible. They still though do moderate fully and when I recently posted on there - it went through the approval process. The point being - it's good to have standards that people agree to.
J. Flo March 24, 2012 at 07:27 PM
That's true that they do not verify but they also don't allow "trolling", flaming, insulting, dominating. And if that does happen - they will cut off people's account. The site I moderated (much less busy then Huff Post) had guidelines that were strictly enforced. And because of that most people didn't feel the need to post with phony names. In fact - a community was created and over a decade later many friendships from across the world - remain.
hellwood March 24, 2012 at 07:29 PM
RE:Reza Gostar 12:18 pm on Saturday, March 24, 2012 "FYI, you can contact people by posting a message to their Patch profile, Patch reroutes comments to their email addresses." Contact info meaning: an actual direct link to the persons website, or email address, and even a bio. A private message wont verify anything if is a fake name, and throwaway email account. Half of these people dont even live in this town, and they spew their insults and propaganda with no consequences to their reputation.
J. Flo March 24, 2012 at 07:33 PM
Read my post above! :-)
J. Flo March 24, 2012 at 07:35 PM
See, I knew we could pull you back in - :-))
Reza Gostar March 24, 2012 at 07:46 PM
RE: Hellwood I can't say that you are wrong. I am just letting you know of what Patch's current capabilities are as far as messaging. I know on blogger.com moderators have the option to allow or not allow anonymous comments, public comments and so forth. Unfortunately, Patch works under a different interface at the moment.
J. Flo March 24, 2012 at 07:49 PM
LA Times is planning to require that people use their Facebook accounts to write comments on their forums. I think it really brings down the legitimacy of a news site when there isn't a strong set of guidelines. Huffington Post has to approve every post before it is published. I've spoken to a local paper who is considering a forum and will also use that guideline. I moderated a well-known website forum for 10 years. There were very clear guidelines. Every poster had to agree to those rules before being approved in the comment section. It only takes a moment to click your approval and then they were kept to those standards.
Reza Gostar March 24, 2012 at 07:51 PM
I don't think he ever left, at least not in the spiritual sense. How do I know this? He just called me on his cell phone while giving a food order--that's so Southern California. :)
R Y A N March 24, 2012 at 07:55 PM
I took the photo of the missing pay phone is the Lost Hills Sheriff station lobby many months after Mitrice was released. I felt that released persons have a right to private-line privacy to call their attorney for privileged communication (and not be recorded/monitored by Sheriff personnel. Only those knowledgeable of circumstances at the time of Mitrice's release can say for sure if the pay phone was there that day, possibly other people similarly released. Call records from that pay phone might prove its existence at the expense of disclosure of that private information. I don't know how to address that catch-22, unless you'd be satisfied with a statement when that pay phone was collected by Verizon or the private pay phone entity. Lastly, if the pay phone was Verizon, there woudl likely be a bill for it paid by the County because it is inside a building and not visible by passers by for general use/operational revenue. Second, the Malibu Sheriff's subsequent record to provide the community with prompt information has improved. Like anything else, there is some risk with the accuracy of preliminary or unconfirmed information. It is seems to me that the Sheriff has or will re-review their policies on release of information under such circumstances. Mistake or not, continued griping won't effect policy change by itself. Further comment on the range of information released spcific to this case can be taken up with Captain Stephen or Sheriff Baca.
J. Flo March 24, 2012 at 08:23 PM
HAHAHA Love that man.
Andy Lyon March 24, 2012 at 10:16 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/topix-innocent-mans-life-destroyed-anonymous-online-poster/story?id=15963310#.T25HuNVzMwI
Linda Vallejo March 25, 2012 at 08:10 PM
Hi Ryan I remember you! I was at LASD soon after and a friend of mine was there several days after Mitrice left LASD and there was no phone plus deputy made snotty remark re Mitrice. Regarding posting real name my friend works for a Forbes top Intl. Property and they do look up prospective employees on website social media. Who cares if it is not their real name? It's about content. Can't believe someone's only comment is shame on Patch! You guys are doing a fantastic job!nnn
Alessandra DeClario March 26, 2012 at 04:25 AM
Hey Jonathan - I still miss you. Glad you put your 2 cents in once in a while.. BTW I am just me... a rose by any other name is still a rose... At least I'm off Youtube!!! ha ha ha As for this tragedy ... I still feel that we all need to think of sending our thoughts/prayers for his eternal life and the peace of the family. And it DOES remind me of "24"!

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