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Petition Started to Ban Overnight Camping

The petition comes in response to recent comments from the executive director of the Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy about his plans for overnight camping in Corral Canyon.

Residents have started a petition to ban overnight camping in Corral Canyon and other high risk fire areas in Malibu.

"For any group to allow camping in known high-risk fire areas would be irresponsible from both a civic and a liability position," the petition states.

The petition, which was created by the Corral Canyon Fire Safety Alliance, was posted on change.org in the wake of plans by Joe Edmiston, executive director of the Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy (SMMC), to put overnight camping in Charmlee Wilderness Park and Ramirez Canyon. As of Tuesday night, 108 people had signed the online petition.

At a recent SMMC board meeting, Edmiston said the conservancy has dropped its plans for camping at Bluff's Park, but still has plans on the back burner for Corral Canyon.

"We're not pursuing Corral at this current time," Edmiston said. A fire in Corral Canyon in 2007 destroyed 53 homes.

The petition is addressed to the SMMC and the city of Malibu. The board of directors for the SMMC and the Malibu City Council have both voted to further persue negotiations for a land swap of Charmlee Wilderness Park for Bluff's Park.

Although it was not part of the initial negotiations, the council has asked its city attorney to see if the SMMC would be interested in including Corral and Escondido canyons in any deal.

According to the petition: "The combination of extremely dry brush conditions and strong, gusty winds creates the perfect environment for easily ignitable and fast moving wild fires as is evidenced by the 2007 Corral Canyon blaze, started by campers during the night, that destroyed 53 homes, burned 5000 acres and destroyed innumerable structures, pets and personal property."

Deborah Kramer of Malibu wrote on the petition site, "Personal safety first. Camping is a year long fire hazard in these mountains and the area is bordered by thousands of family homes."

Read the full petition and learn more at http://www.change.org.

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Marshall Thompson January 16, 2013 at 12:38 am
I signed the petition. The Malibu City Council seems to have lost it's collective mind. Why not elect Joe Edmiston Mayor while you are at it?
Susan Tellem January 16, 2013 at 12:49 am
It's a no brainer and a four letter word. FIRE.
John Mazza January 16, 2013 at 01:04 am
It only took a day for Corral Canyon to act. Good for them. We must all act before the madness of the city council burns us out. If people remember, Coral Canyon citizens came to the council many times begging them to protect them from the fact that the State did nothing to patrol the camping and raves up canyon then they were burned out. Last night the council ignored that danger. Please sign their petition---someone may listen.
John Mazza January 16, 2013 at 01:11 am
Over 100 signatures in less than three hours. We know where Malibu stands on fires even though the city council does not.
R J January 16, 2013 at 01:32 am
Can we get some tech savvy person to put up a web site for signatures? I think this would be another vehicle for us to gain the much needed support.
Sean Butler January 16, 2013 at 02:57 am
RECALL RECALL RECALL its time for all of them to go.....
Beverly Taki January 16, 2013 at 03:00 am
There is already a tech savvy person who has a site to sign a petition. I have signed this petition. Please, I encourage all of you to sign this petition to mobilize and speak out against this issue, before it is to late! http://www.change.org/petitions/the-city-of-malibu-and-the-santa-monica-mountains-conservancy-ban-overnight-camping-in-malibu-s-corral-canyon-and-high-risk-fire-areas?utm_campaign=petition_created&utm_medium=email&utm_source=guides&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=url_share&utm_campaign=url_share_before_sign
Lori Jacobus January 16, 2013 at 03:11 am
Please sign the e-petition if you have not already. Here's the link:
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-city-of-malibu-and-the-santa-monica-mountains-conservancy-ban-overnight-camping-in-malibu-s-corral-canyon-and-high-risk-fire-areas?utm_campaign=petition_created&utm_medium=email&utm_source=guides&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=url_share&utm_campaign=url_share_before_sign
John Z. Shafai January 16, 2013 at 03:14 am
Joe Edmiston’s promise "We're not pursuing Corral at this current time" provides me little comfort. Edmiston is a proven bureaucratic chess champion and political tactician -- he has been at this a long time. He is the only boss the SMMC (est. 1980) has ever known. For the last 33 years at its helm he had demonstrated that he can easily outmaneuver and outsmart his opponents. Either the City Council is remarkably naïve or certain members of the City Council are doing the bidding of a select few at the expense of all of Malibu. If this current carnage of a settlement is ramrodded through, there will be campfires in Corral Canyon. Any settlement MUST include a stipulation to prohibit overnight camping in Corral Canyon. The safety of all of Malibu demands it.
Lori Jacobus January 16, 2013 at 03:16 am
Very well said, John. Very well said.
John Z. Shafai January 16, 2013 at 03:50 am
Addressing the proposed settlement (abandoning any opposition to overnight camping in Corral Canyon if done just outside the city boundary), Joan House recently said: “People in Malibu are pretty much aware of fires and the threat of what may happen. And so of course I’m always concerned about fires . . . I don’t see where you could equate fires to this situation. I think it’s a reach.” (See, Malibu Times, January 9, 2012). Try this equation for size: On November 24, 2007, in less than 4 hours, a campfire destroyed 53 homes in four canyons. Any wind driven fire will cross your imaginary line in bush faster than you can say Jack Robinson. Any settlement MUST include a stipulation to prohibit overnight camping in Corral Canyon to ensure the safety of all of Malibu.
J. Flo January 16, 2013 at 04:11 am
We need a petition to sign that BANS OVERNIGHT CAMPING in any new sites in Malibu and a NO to giving away our priceless, historic nearly 550 acre parkland, Charmlee Wilderness Park, to Joe Edmonson.
No. No. No. Malibu it is time to come together once again.
J. Flo January 16, 2013 at 07:46 am
Every resident - you must go read the inner-office email from Joe Edmonson, that was somehow obtained. It is an absolute necessity for all to fully understand the disturbing mindset of aggression that Malibu residents are contending with. I've posted excerpts from it on the page, but read the entire letter for your own study and thoughts. Posted by the Patch on this page, under the photos >
http://malibu.patch.com/articles/malibu-council-oks-exploration-of-proposed-land-swap
Susan Tellem January 16, 2013 at 12:36 pm
I totally agree with you Brian - we need a rich person to step up to finance the recall. It's time to kick out the whole lot. Yesterday Peak betrayed Malibu homeowners along with LaMonte by going to the water board and saying yes to a tax on us - the deal was so bad even the supes voted against it but not our stupid council members. I requested an audit report from the State Finance office that requested Edmiston correct a variety of financial items. The follow on report shows he has not complied on all even after more than six months. That's because he thinks he is king. He does not take care of his property. How about all those marijuana farms they find on his property that destroy the parks. He completely ignores his responsibilities to clean up and prevent problems on SMMC land. He wants to destroy Malibu.
R J January 16, 2013 at 01:01 pm
Lori and Bev thanks.
Joseph Delano January 16, 2013 at 02:42 pm
Is that whacked out kid still on City Council? Apparently this country and this city will tolerate anything!
Dottie January 16, 2013 at 03:05 pm
I almost spit out my cheerios laughing so hard.
Preserve Malibu January 16, 2013 at 06:59 pm
As a community of residents, let's put together a meeting immediately within the next few weeks. If you are interested in talking with your neighbors, we're willing to host a meeting. We need to hear from you to schedule it.
It's time to get involved. This is our town. The majority of people don't like being vocal in public, dislike putting our names out there but our love for Malibu needs to be far greater. Let's sit down, work together and stand together to fully understand and participate in these critical issues. Let your voice be heard. Please either go to 'Preserve Malibu' on Facebook or email: PreserveMalibu@gmail.com and let us know what dates work for you within the next 2-3 weeks. Together we can preserve Malibu!
sara randall January 26, 2013 at 04:11 pm
My brother Ted Beason would be so proud of you all and what you are doing for the corral cyn neighborhood he loved so much he loved you all and knew how much the loss was durring the fires of 2007 as he lost his house too.he is up there with thumbs up. i am thinking of you all and have signed in Ted's honor.
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Firemen are my true heroes. Not once, but twice, have they saved my house over the years, as wellRead More as where I worked most of my career. We cannot thank them enough for their yeomen efforts and hard work. When they are on the lines, we always provide them with food and drink, which is the least that we can do. We also welcome them when they make their annual inspections of properties here to ensure that homeowners clear their brush. When I was in school, we were visited by Firemen, who handed out badges and booklets on fire safety. I was proud to wear my "Junior Fireman" badge back then, and feel the same today!
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We truly are blessed with the best first responders a community could hope for. A nod also to theRead More excellent building and planning standards we have implimented over the last few decades. Homes are now required to have dual pane glass, stucco (or commensurate) siding, class A roofs, adequate access, significant water storage, and the essential 200 ft. brush clearance. The proof has been demonstrated, and the results are impressive.
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Luv the rainbow over our heavenly canyon, we are truly blessed to live here! Gratitude
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A follow-up to Tom Brady's idea of annelected mayor. That woukd require a change in the form ofRead More government in Malibu to a Mayor-Manager form. The Mayor-Manager form is best for larger cities. Most cities the size of Malibu have the Council-Manager form because experience shows it works best for small cities. Having an elected mayor with the power of an elected mayor could create more problems than it solves. It would completely change the political environent in Malibu, and not for the better. Having weak, rotating mayors serves Malibu well.
Dee Rivellino June 17, 2013 at 06:07 pm
How do I explain why we have such a turnover in Mayors.? Because in intelligent communities theRead More answer would sound very pathetic. ..Well, let me start from the beginning when no one on the first, second, third, fourth, etc. Councils could decide how long the Mayor should serve ..so some genius came up with rotation and actually that's ok because all the Mayor does anyway is pose for pictures with the current flock of so called Celebrities. This goes on the list of why Malibu is always so different from other normal town around us.(An article I wrote months ago in the Surfside news) The Council meets, accomplishes little, a new Mayor is selected and life goes on. ... Elected officials(that's a joke too since only less than 3,000 people ever show up to vote out of 13,000 residents).. You can't ask questions like why our Mayor moves like the waves of the Ocean when most of the people in Malibu have no clue whats going on behind those thick doors at City Hall....the ones NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. Good for Burt, its only taken him 18 months to ask the hard questions.
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Sounds like a great father, like his son. My father died in 1989, of cancer, but was a happy,Read More positive man to the end. My mother remarried nine years later, and remarked before she died at age 98 that she was blessed to be married to two wonderful men.
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Dear Burt, A very toughing piece about your dear father. If only more fathers these days had theRead More values and character that your father had, this world would be a much better, more caring and loving place. I, too, had a father that was very giving and supportive of me. As both of my parents were holocaust survivors, my upbringing was greatly influenced by their horrific experiences in Poland, Czechoslovakia and Germany: losing 80% of our families, being in over a dozen different concentration camps and facing death and torture continuously. It’s amazing that they were able to lead “normal” lives upon immigrating to the US. Never finishing high school in Poland and not speaking a word of English, he attended night school (Fairfax High), worked during the days in the subcontractor business (he manufactured venetian blinds, screens and louver windows, all from scratch, decades before they were imported), became a citizen (as did my late Mom) and raised a family. They eked out a living (lower middle class), sent my younger brother and I to Hebrew school every day after public school classes, encouraged us to strive in school and somehow supported my hobby of being a radio amateur and my brother in violin studies. My parents always wanted me to become an electronics engineer (probably based on the dream my father had before WW2). Several of his proudest moments were when I got accepted into the physics grad schools of Princeton, Harvard, Caltech, Stanford and UCLA; when I received my PhD from Caltech; when I authored a cover feature article in Scientific American; and when I married my Beshert (soul mate). As a kid, I had a mild connection to you, Burt. I loved rulers, be they the fancy compact metallic ones that retracted by the push of a button, the ones that had a mechanical crank to reel in the ruler or the foldable wooden rulers (that I always associated with a magic trick), which I would use in school, the lab and measuring Ham radio antennas that I built as a kid. All this was influenced by my dear father, equipped with rulers of all kinds, which he used on a daily basis when precisely measuring windows and door frames, manufacturing venetian blinds, screen doors, etc. As a 5-year old, my father would take me to his 2-man shop and, as they worked, I would run around the place with various rulers and magnets in tow, measuring everything in sight and picking up nails and hardware. I guess the only difference between us is that you became a ruler and I became one who is ruled. Happy Father’s Day, Burt!
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