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LETTER: Malibu Stands Against Fire

There was a meeting this weekend to show how very, very afraid Malibuites are of fire and how we have to get together to stop the Malibu City Council from giving away Charmlee Park and making other changes in Malibu too dangerous for a severe fire hazar

I fear fire. Loved ones died in Malibu fires. Fires burned homes, churches, parks, and schools in Malibu.    

There was a meeting this weekend to show how very, very afraid Malibuites are of fire and how we have to get together to stop the Malibu City Council from giving away Charmlee Park and making other changes in Malibu too dangerous for a severe fire hazard zone, while finding solutions to recreational desires that do not have a risk of fire.  

Discussion was open to all solutions for finding space for more ballfields and a skate park and all actions to stop the giveaway of Charmlee Park, including recalling Malibu City Council members, involving Fire Department officials from all stakeholders in the Malibu mountains including the federal government, the state, and LA County, and taking legal action because of how the deal to give away Charmlee Park was made.   

An email sent by the head of a state agency, Joe Edmiston, was leaked and published in the local press (and is printed below) that reveals a deal that I believe is in violation of the Brown Act by Malibu City Council person Joan House and Malibu Mayor Lou LaMonte.

Cindy Vandor, Malibu

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From: Joseph T. Edmiston, FAICP Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 7:01 AM Subject: January 7th

The January 7th agenda will probably be one of the most consequential in recent memory. So I want to give you a heads-up with plenty of opportunity to discuss with me and other staff well ahead of time. 

Personal note: I will have a minor parathyroid procedure on January 3rd (scheduled months ago) and one of the common side-effects is a temporary hoarseness (apparently to get to the parathyroid you’ve got to doddle around with the vocal cords). So when my baritone is most needed, it may yield up only a whisper. Hence my encouraging early dialogue.

Email is silent and I will of course be available to you via that medium after the 5th when the meds will have worn off. I am recommending to Chairpersons Cheadle and Lange, that a concurrent (not joint) meeting of the Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy and the Mountains Recreation and Conservation Authority be held for January 7, 2012, at the Temescal Canyon Conference and Retreat Center. 

Background

Last week I met with Malibu Mayor Lou La Monte and Mayor pro Tem Joan House, at their request. By the end of the meeting we had the framework for a comprehensive solution to many of the issues between Malibu and the SMMC. Yesterday [Thursday] our full legal team (AG plus our two outside counsel firms and MRCA staff counsel) and that of the city plus the city manager, met for two and a half hours to hammer out the details. I am happy to report that this meeting was successful.  

Quick Summary

Ramirez: City agrees to make the temporary injunction in Malibu vs. SMMC  permanent. This freezes the current uses allowed by the injunction, i.e.,15 staff, two outreach programs per week, caretaker and family, 40 vehicle round-trip limit, staff trainings, etc. Nothing limits SMMC from seeking additional uses, but these enumerated uses would be grandfathered-in. SMMC would authorize filing a Coastal Development Permit with the Coastal Commission for two handicapped camping sites, restroom, and trail connections to Kanan Road and eastward to adjacent properties, all such properties outside the city of Malibu. Indemnification of Malibu against Ramirez Canyon residents suit. SMMC would agree to apply to city for restoration of the tennis court area as an unpermitted (Streisand era) development.      

Malibu Bluffs: SMMC would transfer the 83 acre bluff property to Malibu subject to a deed restriction for public park uses and a requirement not to diminish total public parking spaces.  Pending General Services action on the deed transfer, the SMMC would execute a ground lease with Malibu for nominal consideration.

Charmlee Park: Malibu would transfer this 590 acre park to the Mountains Recreation & Conservation Authority for public park purposes. Pending the Malibu Bluffs transaction, Malibu would execute a ground lease to MRCA. The MRCA governing board would authorize an application to the Coastal Commission for camping sites at Charmlee that are outside the territorial jurisdiction of Malibu.  

Corral Canyon: Parties would agree to disagree. No restriction on SMMC application for camping, but we have represented to Malibu that our first priority applications to the Coastal Commission will be for Ramirez and Charmlee. Arguments in favor Immediate application for camping, if not within the city limits, just outside thereof. Highly likely that the Coastal Commission will approve. The agreement allows city of Malibu to object, just like any party, but because the camping would be in the unincorporated area the city’s position would not be dispositive. The Charmlee camping site was originally identified in the 2007 MOU with the city of Malibu but that which was ultimately turned down by the city following the October 2007 fire. After the transfer of jurisdiction Malibu would not have a veto on uses of this regional park.

Resolution of current uses at Ramirez Canyon, at least in so far as city of Malibu is concerned. No limitation on SMMC application for future uses.  

SMMC retains ability to apply to the Coastal Commission for camping at Corral Canyon, although, as a practical matter this will follow later than the Ramirez and Charmlee camping applications. Based on the Coastal Commission’s prior approval of camping here (x2) the camping application is merely a matter of timing, not ultimate success or failure before that body. Arguments against  

Camping on Malibu Bluffs will never happen if the city obtains jurisdiction. That is the principal benefit that the city gains from this agreement. The perception that SMMC is giving up on camping on the iconic property within city limits, i.e., that Malibu has “won” the camping issue on the Bluffs will be touted by the Malibu politicos. And they will be right.

 This is an important political victory that the council members can claim (conversely a reason they will vote for it). It represents for me personally a bitter defeat in that a local municipality can defeat classic park uses on land acquired from all the state’s taxpayers. On the other hand, Malibu’s victory is only in a technical sense because camping will be proposed just a few yards outside the city limits, and beyond their ability to veto.

Ramirez Canyon residents will still be able to sue—although they won’t have the city on their side (at least officially). Joseph T. Edmiston, FAICP, Hon. ASLA Executive Director State of California--Natural Resources Agency Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy

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Max May 23, 2013 at 01:54 pm
@hellwood. What you say is true also. Based on your assessment, all sports and visitors to ourRead More parks should be prohibited. Why? After every sporting event, and, after most weekends, I see all forms of trash littered throughout the park, the baseball fields, the parking lots, etc. And, all this in the PRESENCE of trash containers. When I approached a parent that littering is not only illegal; and, that birds mistake pieces of plastic as food which, as a result, kill them as well as their babies; and, that peanut shells attract rodents; and, also that allowing their kids (and, the parents) to litter is NOT a way to instill good habits amongst the children, I was told, "That's why we pay taxes...so that the city workers can clean up this mess." Could it be that some of these parents also own beach homes?
hellwood May 23, 2013 at 11:25 am
@max what you say is all true however, I live at a beach access, and there was minimal trash beforeRead More it was opened to the public. after the gate was opened, the beach and highway were transformed into a dump. after a busy weekend there is crap scattered all over the place, and no way to clean it up. for every jerk homeowner here in malibu, there are at least a hundred visitors who need to be taught some manners. watching people under homes crapping while their dogs crap all up and down, setting up shop on people's decks and stairs with BBQ's and coolers, and using the residents showers and hoses is really getting old. there are no restrooms, no trash cans on the beach, and the county doesn't maintain most of these beaches which means the locals are left with the mess.
Ben Dover May 23, 2013 at 11:23 am
I hope the APP explains to the city people that the sand in front of many of the homes is private toRead More the mean high tide line. Many homeowners have had their property stolen from them due to extortion by the CCC, many have not. I hope the APP also lets these people know that removing creatures from our local tide pools is a no-no, as well as molesting marine mammals.
M Stanley May 21, 2013 at 06:53 pm
Still no official spokesperson for CA State Parks? Not one person that speaks on behalf of theRead More project?? A REAL person who is paid to present facts, who got the contract to do the outreach that was in the budget documentation? Reach Out whoever you are, earn that pay!!!
Sulah cat May 21, 2013 at 06:36 pm
OK. Jamie, here's the deal. The money spent to restore the lagoon came from a pot of bond moneyRead More (voter approved) that was intended to be used ONLY for the maintenance of wetlands here in the state. If that money had not been spent here in Malibu it would have been spent elsewhere in the state on some other wetland. Any other use is a moot point. If you felt you were attacked it was only because you did seem a little obtuse. You first made the hot rod reference. Personally, I'm more into flat sixes than flat heads. Peace and have a good one. Puuuuuuuuuuuuuur.
JamieDixon May 21, 2013 at 04:19 pm
Sulah cat, My posts have demonstrated my belief that the “Malibu Lagoon RestorationRead More Project” is a name that may have been created in order to mislead people into thinking it that the project would be a worthwhile public expense. The idea of restoring the Lagoon isn’t necessarily a bad idea. That being said, I believe the money spent to alter the Lagoon could have been spent in many other ways that would have served the public better. Why do you attack me personally? First, you say I’m not a car guy and then you accuse me being into flat head Fords? Fords, really? Sincerely yours,
Max May 21, 2013 at 10:22 am
Your worst nightmare scenario: I predict that you’d experience brain freeze if you wereRead More having a procedure right here in Malibu at your friendly gastroenterologist’s place just as a smoke alarm went off in his office. You’d be a real quandary, namely, “When, what, where and how to evacuate?” In this case, the Santa Ana winds would blow from inside, as well as outside, the doctor’s office, in which case, both you and the good doc would evacuate pell-mell (or, should I say, pell-smell?). In anticipation of this high-pressure scenario, perhaps it’s in your best interest to hop onto the I-80 and (re) evacuate the 2831.67 miles back East, from whence you came, to avoid this potential sensory overload occurrence. In the meantime, should we get hit with another fire (G-d forbid), our Firefighter heroes, upon entering your home, would exclaim on their megaphone, "OK everyone, if you follow my commands and remain calm, everyone will be safe. Therefore, in accordance with International Red Cross protocol and common-sense guidelines, please make way for Burt, the children, the woman, the elderly and, finally, able-bodied men, to evacuate, in that order!"
David Armstead May 20, 2013 at 01:26 pm
the People of Malibu better wake up! this issue with Paradise Cove is only going to get worse. TheRead More city and Paradise Cove are working on an expansion of the parking there. See the link to a recent meeting at the city that is the beginning of Paradise coves expansion. It is very quiet and no one knows but look at the plan. Currently Paradise Cove does not have the proper Zoning to be doing what they do down there. The city thinks by letting them expand that it will get people off the highway so they are in favor but in reality it only puts more money into the pockets of Paradise Cove and people will still park on PCH and Paradise Cove will continue to sends drunks out onto the road to endanger all of us. Speak up! http://www.malibucity.org/download/index.cfm/fuseaction/download/cid/20457/
webecool May 20, 2013 at 03:26 pm
I ate lunch Friday at the Adamson House lawn and nearly 'chuncked out' with the smell of sewage.Read More Uggggg! It was worse than the biggest sewage spill that Paradise Cove ever had in the 15 years living there. I'm not a scientist like everyone else who has been arguing about this project but I know the smell of 8hit when I smell it. Something is seriously wrong. I am a mechanical engineer and it seems to me that all the scientists and smart designers have not taken into account any fluid dynamics. Water flows in, water flows out....water flows through. How hard is that? It seems to me they have designed what is called turbulence!
steve dunn May 19, 2013 at 04:43 pm
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Jessica E. Davis (Editor) May 17, 2013 at 03:51 pm
Love that you are using the message board to ask this question. Does any one have any ideas?
M Stanley May 16, 2013 at 01:33 pm
Thank you for the information Jessica!
Jessica E. Davis (Editor) May 15, 2013 at 05:54 pm
Also, first make sure you are signed in, and if you can't go to the reset password link here:Read More http://malibu.patch.com/forgot_password.
Max May 15, 2013 at 11:03 am
Dear Phil (re: Burt's column), I can’t quite put my finger on it, but, I sense anRead More Eggs-itential undertone to all this. Does the chicken Egg-ist on behalf of the egg or vice versa? Eggs-perience will reveal the truth. To be complete, I must rehash Camus’ “The Play-egg.” Yet, as I recall, in the Book of Eggs-odous, there wasn’t a single Play-egg, but ten of them… so many, in fact, that it seems to many readers to be literally a Dozen Play-eggs. But, then again, I’m not very religious. In fact, many of my colleagues take me for an Egg-nostic. But, they are such Hard-boiled fanatics, that, in fact, their peers surmise they boarder on Egg-lectic. But, as Burt always says in da ‘hood, “Om-letting them be what they want to be.” We, however, have one on Burt: Rumor has it that he fell of the Vegan and had an egg salad… to which he Eggs-claims, “It was a serving of ‘Egg Beaters,’ you Egg-Heads!!”
Jessica E. Davis (Editor) May 14, 2013 at 10:27 pm
From my family: McCluckens
Susan Tellem May 14, 2013 at 07:35 pm
Call them Nuggets, Fricassee, Kiev, Marsala and Enchilada because that's what chickens end up as onRead More the dinner plate. Just sayin'.
TheDr. May 2, 2013 at 11:26 pm
But autumn in old town around Farmington Rd and Grand River is nice as is the season anywhere inRead More Michigan..I love California and the years I lived there.
J. Flo April 27, 2013 at 02:21 am
May Malibu residents, businesses and our City ALWAYS have the foresight and passion to remember andRead More protect > "Malibu was a place I went to with friends to hang out at the beach. But the last few years, its become a place I often go to by myself as a little escape zone. Whenever I have need to clear by head and level my shoulders, I head out to Malibu for a little mini-vacation. Whenever, like Ishmael, it feels like a damp, drizzly November in my soul, I fire up my 1965 Chevelle Malibu Super Sport and go see the watery part of the world." Amen.
Darcy Miller April 27, 2013 at 12:43 am
I'm from Farmington, MI and I live in Calabasas now, off Mulholland Highway, for the same reason.Read More Beauty all around...
Sulah cat May 16, 2013 at 03:18 pm
MT-------still engaging in blatant hyperbole. Aldo Leopold van de Hoeck is not! Jacques, thanksRead More for the offer but no thanks. You'll just have to do it yourself. It's difficult to respond to a remark that has no sense. Puuuuuuuuuuur
Jacques Mehoff May 3, 2013 at 07:30 pm
I don't know why Sulah Cat would talk about CeCe in such a way, I thought they were friends......
Jessica E. Davis (Editor) May 3, 2013 at 07:24 pm
Thanks all for the love. I think I learned my lesson about taking time off though! It's been a busyRead More week back.
J. Flo April 10, 2013 at 12:51 am
We also use Havahart traps. They are gentle and humane, we can easily transport the little crittersRead More away from our population. We've done this successfully at least 20 times! Shared them with countless Malibu friends who've also successfully and humanely cured their rodent issues.
Maureen Haldeman April 9, 2013 at 02:29 pm
Many complain but do nothing more ... and it is only by action that something gets accomplished. IRead More applaud The Malibu Agricultural Society for persevering on this critical issue and thank the local businesses that removed the rat poison from their shelves. We really can all make a difference. Thank you!
Cece Stein April 9, 2013 at 01:56 pm
Dittos Kian Well said and thanks for your compassion .