Firefighters Quickly Douse Nicholas Beach Fire

The brush fire burns an eighth of an acre before it is contained.

Firefighters made quick work of a brush fire Sunday at Nicholas Beach in Malibu.

The flames scorched about an eighth of an acre before firefighters contained the flames by about 4:30 p.m., according to the Los Angeles County Fire Department.

"The cause is yet to be determined," Lt. Robert Ward of the Lost Hills Sheriff's Station told Patch. "The call about the fire came in at about 4:15 p.m."

Lost Hills/Malibu Sheriff's Station deputies also responded to the incident.

Marshall Thompson January 14, 2013 at 02:21 AM
Riiiight! Now let's get the overnight camping program at Charmlee Park up to speed ASAP! Thx for the photo, Hamish.
Jay Scott January 14, 2013 at 05:50 AM
great job by LACOFD
Barrie Livingstone January 14, 2013 at 06:01 AM
In England we have bands of Gypsies that set up their caravans on annoyed property and because of retarded archaic laws they have squatters rights. In Malibu we have a city board that wants to welcome campfires from camping and cigarettes from skate boarders that are proven to cause fires that destroy our property, takel lives and cause a major liability for us all. Can we please all just vote on this. I believe that the city if the city was held liable for any property damage or loss of life caused from a fire that was caused by one of their city endorsed camp grounds or skate parks they would soon not have them. Every resident should be outraged at the complete lack of respect for our lives and homes. The city needs to protect not harm it's citizens
hellwood January 14, 2013 at 09:18 AM
@Barrie cigarettes from skateboarders???? ...NOT soccer moms, surfers, walkers, hikers, bikers, students, tourists, commuters, bums, or billionaires.....but skaters. got it! :/
Marianne Riggins January 14, 2013 at 02:20 PM
The City of Malibu has given no indication one way or another that they are in favor of campfires. Secondly, to blame one group such as skateboarders is completely irresponsible and you should apologize. We need to work together as a community of build a skate park so skateboarders have a place to enjoy their sport.
Cathey Cadieux January 14, 2013 at 03:14 PM
Time for a cigarette ban... sister City of Santa Monica has been leading the way. Before the smokers start to cry foul, you now have electric cigarettes, which deliver your nicotene, but do not impact others with your smoke. No cigarettes, no more campfires. Leo Carillo State Beach , as well as Thornhill Broome, both places where I have camped, seem to have fulltime camp hosts that keep an eye on things, and are able to manage the campfires well. Also, both locations are removed from residential housing. But Charmlee Park with camping will be a disaster waiting to happen; there are many densely populated equestrian properties, up on Encinal; any brushfires started by a cigarette or campfire will spread ...like wildfire!!! The ability to evacuate in that area is extremely limited. Please, Malibu City Council, talk to your sister City of Santa Monica, and follow their example.
Ben Dover January 14, 2013 at 03:40 PM
There all ready is a cigarette ban on beach................ why not ban power since most of our fires can be traced back to fallen power poles. Or here's a better idea, why don't you just move to Santa Monica.
julie January 14, 2013 at 06:10 PM
City Counsel meeting tonight at 6:30, show up and let the politicians know we would like to keep ownership of Charmlee Wilderness Park. This park belongs to the people of Malibu who need to show up and be counted!
Susan Tellem January 14, 2013 at 06:29 PM
Since when did a skateboard park become the holy grail of Malibu. Trading Charmlee for a skateboard park is outrageous. And it's likely never to happen since the acreage at Bluff's is zoned for passive recreation. Unless skateboarders just want to carry their boards around the park, this is ridiculous.
Andy Lyon January 14, 2013 at 08:54 PM
Andy Lyon January 14, 2013 at 08:58 PM
Charmalee doesn't belong to the people of Malibu if a couple of sell outs along with king thorsen and queen hogin can so easily trade it away. TIME TO RECALL THE WHOLE COUNCIL AND GET RID OF OUR CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY !!!
R Y A N January 14, 2013 at 09:18 PM
Most of the SMMC-controlled acreage west of the Michael Landon Center (alson known as Bluffs Park) is ESHA (Environmentally Sensitive Habitat Area), so there is very little potential for development OF ANY KIND. Like a vacant lot in Thousand Oaks that is studded with oak trees, you can't build on it.
Andy Lyon January 14, 2013 at 10:19 PM
Exactly ! Sounds like a great deal for Joe.
Hans Laetz January 14, 2013 at 11:34 PM
Susan, dozens of skateboarders have appeared at City Council meetings. There is a HUGE demand for a skateboard park. It's not the holy grail, it's one of several important reasons to get Joe Edmiston out of central Malibu. As you know from your hard work on the public safety commission, two damaging brushfires have broken out on the part of Bluffs Park owned by the MRCA in recent years. One of those fires claimed six houses on Malibu Road and can be directly traced to the thicket of dead trees on PCH that the MRCA has failed to clean up. Andy, you and Hamish and I all campaigned in favor of a skateboard park, both temporary and permanent. Some of us have continued to push for the Papa Jack's ramps to go at Bluffs Park, temporarily. It's the only place that will work, for a lot of reasons. A vote to keep Joe in charge of Bluffs Park is a vote to throw the hundreds of kids needs out. You may not like that, I do not like that, but that is the plain and practical truth. Politics is the art of compromise. We need to get the best deal possible, and we won't get everything we want. That's reality.
Hans Laetz January 14, 2013 at 11:37 PM
... and Ventura County engines 56 and 33. Big assist from the yellow trucks.
Hans Laetz January 14, 2013 at 11:44 PM
" so there is very little potential for development OF ANY KIND." If you are shown wrong tonight, R Y A N, when the city reveals exactly how much non-ESHA land there is, will you still feel that way? Right now, Malibu owns about 10 acres of Bluffs Park, all of it under the ballfields and Landon Center. I hear rumors that there are more than 10 acres of flat, plowed land on the west side of the MRCA land, that are set back from the ESHA and could become active park areas. That means, there is more usable park space on the west mesa than currently used on the east mesa. There's also room for a parking lot, accessible at the John Tyler traffic signal. A trail near PCH could link them, or trails through the ESHA. Trails are allowed in ESHA under some circumstances, under the LCP. And Thousand Oaks allows development of oak lands, if the trees are moved or replaced. Happens all the time.
Hans Laetz January 14, 2013 at 11:53 PM
I stopped by the fire last night on the way home from work. It was human-caused, but not a campfire, the firefighters said. It started on the west side of Nicholas Canyon on the Wishtoyo Village land, and some fine sycamores burned. None of Mati Waiya's neat stuff was lost.
Andy Lyon January 15, 2013 at 12:04 AM
The skate ramps could go on the upper lot at city hall TODAY !
Hans Laetz January 15, 2013 at 12:39 AM
You keep saying that. My understanding is that there would not be enough parking.
Barrie Livingstone January 15, 2013 at 03:34 PM
Hellwood and Marianne. Please understand that my comments on skateboarders where that of those people (anyone) who will be in a skateboard park and in no way were intended to be aimed at just one group of people. Anyone can smoke as we all know and i sorry if it came across that way. After reading the other comments. A cigarette ban does sound like a necessary measure but sadly its impossible to police unless a manned person would be onsite. I just believe we have encroached enough on nature and what little of it that we have left should remain, especially those areas that are sensitive to fire. All the land around city hall seems more populated perhaps there are other areas that may be able to be used for a skateboard park that are not as prone to fire? It is obviously a needed park if so many want it, so as long as the land to be used for it is wisely located so as not to put any of us in harms way. Skateboarders love and need hard surfaces and concrete to enjoy so lets find a place that's already around lots of concrete so they are happy and we are not paving more of our paradise to put up a parking lot :-)
Adrian January 15, 2013 at 06:50 PM
Wistoyo lives there lights fires has unpermitted gatherings OnN YHE BEACH. When is the county going to fet rid of them . They are a danger to us wake uo Malibu. This is just the beginning. The area that burned belonged to Wishtoyo who reside on county beach
John January 15, 2013 at 06:56 PM
Wistoyo lives there lights fires has unpermitted gatherings OnN YHE BEACH. When is the county going to fet rid of them . They are a danger to us wake uo Malibu. This is just the beginning. The area that burned belonged to Wishtoyo who reside on county beach
Jane February 20, 2013 at 03:15 AM
Dear All ~ Forgive me but - reality check - not all that is desired is neccessary. Malibu is some of the most pristine, sacred, beautiful beach land in THE WORLD. Santa Monica Mountains are the mirror image of that. There is enough SURF & ROCK climbing available in this area for everyone to be completely sated. If skating is what they want - travel to a place with skate parks - It is NOT incombent upon Malibu to provide them. It's the Greatest of Malibu's NATURAL BEAUTY AND NATURAL ACTIVITIES that makes Malibu so precious - Joni Mitchel's been 'round awhile dud: " they paved paradise and put up a parking lot." Learn to live where you are or MOVE - how's that for compromise - APPRECIATE WHAT IS HERE _ WHICH IS MORE THAN MOST OF THE WORLD HAS!!!!!!! GET REAL ! FOR REAL!
Hans Laetz February 20, 2013 at 03:31 AM
Jane, try telling that to the roomfull of our fellow Malibu residents who went to their local city government and made it clear that the demand for skateboarding is here, clear, and must be addressed. Don't you think it's somewhat elitist to tell people how they should spend their leisure time? How do you know what sates a skateboarder? Why can't Malibu be a place where one climbs rocks in the morning, skates at midday, and surfs that afternoon? If there is a community decision to declare skateboarding "not necessary", what is to stop others from saying rock climbing or horseriding or bicycle riding is not necessary? When I hear people telling me to get real, I look at their motives. And it sure seems like a lot of people around here want to fossilize Malibu exactly the way it was the day they moved in.
Jane February 20, 2013 at 03:56 AM
If we pave over the pristine beauty that is why people love to come here frm all over the world - then what's left = McDonalds and skate parks - it's not elitist to want to protect natural beauty when people forget to respect it. I have ogne on some trail walks and founf broken bottle shards and cig buts - it breaks my heart to see how selfish and irreverant people have become - there is nothing elitist about this. What's elitist is people who move to pristine areas and then want to bring everything else with them. These areas need not be " convenient". they are Precious.
Jane February 20, 2013 at 04:11 AM
Why doesn't it go near the civic center area that is already developed -does anyone know?
Hans Laetz February 20, 2013 at 04:35 AM
The skatepark? Land around the Civic Center is very expensive. There is no room for it. If you have a few hundred thousand bucks for land acquisition, please advise. Honestly, what is wrong about putting a skatepark in a 100-acre park? Kids could play baseball or soccer and then skate. Parents could take their families and neighbor kids to enjoy several different activities at once. Forty percent of the MRCA land is nearly flat. The other 60 percent would be a wonderful wilderness park. It would be a gem. It would be an improvement, filling a big need.
Hans Laetz February 20, 2013 at 05:21 AM
No one wants to pave pristine beauty. There are no McDonald's planned, proposed or imagined. And it is extremely unfair and inaccurate to make those claims. It's hysteria. Cigarette butts on trails = a skatepark to you? That's sad. There were no cig butts at Papa Jack's. No litter. Just kids having fun in a social setting. And that's something that a lot people in Malibu seem to have a real issue with. It seems like, lots of people buy a house out here, on a road, served by power lines, in area that used to be "pristine." And then, they demand that everything stop and be left just exactly the way it was the day they arrived. It's not a matter of convenience. It's a matter of having a healthy community. Kids need constructive activities. So do adults. "Precious"? That word has two meanings. Very loaded.


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