Council Candidate: Andy Lyon

Andy Lyon answers questions about his candidacy:

Editor's Note: Malibu Patch sent a questionnaire to the seven City Council candidates. The questions come from Malibu Patch readers and Malibu Patch staff. All candidates received the same questions. Be sure to find out the candidates' views on more Malibu issues by watching the Great Malibu Debate .

What is your name, birth date and how many years have you lived in Malibu (if there are any gaps, mention them and explain them)? Who are your immediate family members? Feel free to mention names and ages.

Name: Andy Lyon

Birthdate: 11/13/1962

Years in Malibu: "In the 'Bu since '62."

Family members: Four children, ages 22, 21, 18 and 7. 

What is your education and work history?

I went to Webster, Malibu Park Junior High, Santa Monica High, and SMC. I had the Evening Outlook paper route in the Colony when I was 10, bagged groceries at The Colony market, washed dishes at Cardi’s, delivered Rx’s at The Malibu pharmacy/Colony coffee shop, lots of odd jobs around Malibu. I waited tables at I Love Sushi, bartended at Alice’s and Beaurivage and for the last 15 years I have been selling Real Estate here in Malibu.

Why are you qualified to be on the City Council?

I am a citizen of Malibu that doesn’t want anything in return other than to hopefully keep Malibu, Malibu.

Who are you voting for in this election?

I will vote for whoever commits to stopping the bulldozers that are set to destroy the lagoon even if that means standing in front of them, and whoever is willing to fight the sewer project and the overdevelopment that it will allow. So I guess it is up to the other candidates as to whom I will vote for. Hamish for sure.

What is your favorite book? movie? Why?

Ask the dust by John Fante.   

Breaking Away. As a kid growing up in Malibu I really related to this movie as Pepperdine started to take over.

Why do you live in Malibu?

This is where I grew up. My parents left me here…and like the native weeds that line the Pacific Coast Hwy, my roots are planted here and doing quite well.

Who was Malibu’s best City Council member? Why do you choose that person?

Pamela…for taking a stance on the lagoon issue and trying to actually do something about it unlike the others that are giving lip service on that issue or spending City money to avoid saying anything at all.

Do you think the agencies involved in lobbying for sewers have any connection to the developers that will profit from them in our community?

Well, the whole reason we are supposedly needing a sewer is because the existing septics are the source of pollution at the lagoon and surfrider beach. If they were actually the problem you would think that they would be the first to hook up to a sewer. Instead the first to hook up are commercial properties that aren’t even built yet? How does that begin to work on an existing problem?

And now it turns out that the source of the problem is from the birds and the City isn’t going to use the information that they received from the USGS report that they spent something like $125k for to challenge the MOU?

Ok…so, the Co. that is designing the sewer RMC, who also did the legacy park donates money to Heal the Bay who has been a major driving force in forcing Malibu into a sewer project with RWQCB.

Cathrine Tyrell of RMC used to be on the RWQCB and now sits on the SMBRC who is doing the lagoon project.

I asked Thorsen what other company’s bid on the sewer project and he told me that I could find that in the public records but that RMC was picked based on the fact that they were leaders in the field. He told me this at the finance sub- committee where they were asking for an additional $1.45 million because they didn’t know they were going to have to inject the water into the ground. That’s how they lead the field?

So now we have Heal the Bay forcing the sewer and pushing for the lagoon project and getting money from State Parks for the lagoon and money from the company doing the sewer project. Oh, and the company that is going to dredge the lagoon has someone on the Board of HtB too. Very incestuous. 

Anyways, the sewer will allow the commercial properties to build out. Contracts are being awarded based on relationships forged on the SMBRC by favors and back room deals.

So the Sewer project, Legacy Park, and Lagoon Project are all interconnected and tied together by the SMBRC where Heal the Bay also sits. How much money is being donated to Heal the Bay by the commercial property owners?  Why isn’t the council protecting the residential property owners that are in the septic ban area now that is shown to be from the birds ? 

It should be noted also that the GHAD that was allowed by the council was engineered by the same engineers that are doing the lagoon project…Moffit & Nichols.

So my answer to the question is yes, definitely.

How will you help Malibu retain its beautiful rural charm?

Not quite to the extreme of Rhoda May Rindge’s armed cowboys.

Some of the candidates seem to have hung their hats on being born here or living here a long time. What’s more important, being a long-time resident in Malibu or having a track record of showing up at City Council meetings and volunteering in Malibu organizations?

What’s important is why you want to put yourself in this position. Are you someone that just wants the position or do you want to actually stand up get involved because something is so unacceptable that you can’t just sit back and not get involved.

Are you building a resume or taking a stand?

What is your agenda? To help keep Malibu Malibu or promote yourself?

That’s what is important.

The Tapia sewage treatment facility was built without Malibu community input and has caused grievous harm to Malibu's main watershed. It is set up to get worse as it processes more than 10 million gallons of sewage a day. Will you support an effort to hold the Army Corp of Engineers accountable for coming up with a plan to reroute that processed sewage to the Valley for irrigation purposes?

There already is a pipe going back to the valley. We all had to deal with that project a couple of years ago on Malibu Cyn…why is it not online yet? It was supposed to go online last year at the same time that the lagoon project was to begin. They could right now be sending water back to the valley right now. Funny, at the CCC hearing for the lagoon project the design team during their presentation showed how they unveil the new lagoon when finished...they take down the berm and then flood it. I wonder what would happen if the lagoon was dug out and there wasn’t any water coming down from tapia to flood the ‘new lagoon'?

Again, these people all sit on the SMBRC.

Why does Malibu insist on taking the blame for Tapia?

It is time send the blame and the water back to the valley.

Do you support a livable wage for City Council Members, such as $2,000 per month or more, plus benefits?

No, I’ll wait for the consulting job that you get after you serve on the council...from what I see that’s where the real money is.

Benefits are okay, I guess, since there is already a group plan in place.

A voter-approved city law restricts candidates to serving two terms on the City Council. But terms served before 2000 do not count toward that total. Is it appropriate for a candidate to use this loophole to run for three or more terms?

I’m going to give Joan the benefit of the doubt…maybe she forgot.

How do you feel about the Malibu Bay Co. Development Agreement (Measure M) that voters rejected in 2003?

It’s come back, only this time it is in the form of a phase I sewer assessment district that commercial property owners get to be the only ones that vote on it?  

Malibu shopping centers in recent years have started to resemble Rodeo Drive, especially in the Cross Creek area. Many shops and services used by local shoppers have closed due to high rents. What do you think of Preserve Malibu's proposal for a diversification ordinance that would require a broader offering of services, or do you have a better solution?

I support what ‘Preserve Malibu’ is doing and would work with them. I would also hope to slow development by fighting the sewer and working to put the Civic Center properties on individual AOWTS’. Go walk around Cross Creek on the weekend and try and find someone you know. One thing you will notice is the lack of people carrying bags of things purchased. It is a bunch of looky loos…we have all these stores and really what they are here for is to hopefully see somebody famous getting chased by the Paps.

How do you propose working with other council members with whom you might disagree on contentious issues?

Contrary to how I have been portrayed, I am able to work with anybody when it is a two way discussion instead of a two minute attempt at getting a point across to someone that doesn’t have a time restriction or refuses to respond to the question.

I will however stand up for Malibu and will not waiver to anything that I perceive to be a sell out against Malibu.

How would you change city government (larger, smaller, different emphasis)?

More clarity in what is happening at City Hall. Real time streaming of all committee meetings and staff meetings. Allowing public input via Skype on Council meetings.

More input from the community groups that are spearheading and handling the real issues that are affecting the City. I think that these groups are so important and are almost being alienated. I want the input of these groups to help in getting things done.

Do you support the acquisition of land for additional parks and recreation facilities? If so, how would you finance this?

Well, I bet anybody that was thinking about donating land or money for land to Malibu would be thinking twice after legacy park or blowing the chance to get the properties across from Heathercliff.

Of course I do support getting land, but not in shady development deals.

How do you plan to better prepare the citizens of Malibu for the next fire? Do you believe the last fire was handled well, and how will the Corral Canyon Volunteer Fire Department affect the next fire that will be coming soon?   

All the preparedness in the world might not be enough when a fire breaks out in 50 mph Santa Ana winds. Having the equipment to fight the fire in the right place at the right time is imperative though to have a chance. We need to have the super scooper planes and water dropping helicopters on call and ready to go. Also might look into utilizing the water that Pepperdine sends over the hill by building more water tanks up across the ridge towards Corral and Latigo. Monday morning quarter backing the last fire does no good and won’t bring anybody’s home back.  

I think it is great that Corral Cyn has its own volunteer fire department, but I’m unclear if they are for the sole use in Corral Cyn.

So if the next fire hits corral again I think it will definitely help…not sure how they will contribute to a fire in another canyon.

But it does say something about not relying solely on anyone else to protect your property.

Pamela Conley Ulich March 15, 2012 at 02:51 PM
Thank you Andy for showing up, speaking up and for putting yourself on the chopping block otherwise known as local politics. You didn't hesitate to swim out and get in the line up to protect and preserve Malibu and the Malibu Lagoon. Your hand painted political signs are truly divine. They are creative and have shown others how campaigns can be original and unique and effective at the same time. Regardless of the outcome of the election, I am grateful for your leadership and passion for Malibu!
Stephenie Glas March 15, 2012 at 03:24 PM
Super scoopers and water dropping birds dont fight house fires Andy, firemen do with engines with hookups to hydrants. Why dont you know about the last fire and how Mutual Aid agencies were given Thomas Guide maps to Corall Canyon and the surrounding areas? Why does Hans know and not you? Maybe if you did a little research to show youre taking ALL of the issues seriously you would have known. Also, the Corral Canyon Fire Department is funded / endorsed by LA County Fire. The information is a phone call away. I will leave it up to you to find out if they are available for other nearby canyons. Its sort of a critical issue, especially for a City Councilman. I asked how the citizens will be better prepared for the next fire if you are Councilman...there is a program called Get Up and Go that you can find on www.fire.lacounty.org. If you read it, you will be better prepared for the position you are running for. City residents want to feel that the Councilmembers have poured over the issues at hand, not just the lagoon issue. Also, please do us a favor, and sit up in your chair and be diplomatic and attentive during these forums. I find it a disgrace how you slump in your seat and mention how you "just dont care" when you answer the questions that were so eloquently asked by the Realtors Assn. So look at the website, and get back to us please.
Jackie Robbins March 15, 2012 at 04:40 PM
I like the effort "expose and divide", it gives power to the people to help keep those big guys in line, thanks Andy. In a small tight community like Malibu nobody needs to worry about being exposed unless they are operating from greedy self-interest. If they are they'll be first hit when the fan starts blowing.
Steve Woods March 16, 2012 at 02:53 AM
Just a reminder to watch Andy Lyon when he gets so emotional that you have zero clue what he trying to say amongst his insults on the "Outburst At City Hall " Video seen on Patch .. Imagine this guy dealing with the Coastal Commission , or the Regional Water Board, or Cal Trans . Part of being a legitimate political force is being able to be articulate , well researched , cool, calm and collected so that your listeners can actually understand what you are saying . Malibu has Sophisticated Successful residents so we value Facts over emotion !
Marky Biken March 16, 2012 at 06:45 AM
Andy, though I appreciate your passion for protecting the lagoon, I have to question your hostile attitude and outright screaming at people that I have seen. Minimally I would worry that your confrontational attitude only hurts your causes and doesn't help them. I can't imagine that the Regional Water Board or the Coastal Commission is going to listen and respond positively to being yelled at. As we've seen in Malibu's past, that just doesn't work. And I'd really like you to explain the video I saw recently of you screaming profanity at other surfers, screaming at the city council and generally f-bombing pretty much everyone. I'm not going to post a link as it might upset kids, but anyone can find it on Google by typing in "Surfs up LA Andy Lyon". It is hard for me to imagine that our city will be successful and taken seriously with that image and person as our mayor, but in all fairness I'd love you to respond. If anyone hasn't seen this, be warned that it is not appropriate for kids.
Bob Purvey March 16, 2012 at 02:29 PM
Andy, why don't you want the pollution in the lagoon removed? Why are you leading ignorant surfers to believe the lagoon project will screw up the surf when all the real experts, not so-called experts such as your self, keep telling you that the project has nothing to do with the surf?
Stephenie Glas March 16, 2012 at 03:17 PM
Dont get sucked into conspiracy theories, Jackie...without the evidence to proove it. The ocean is polluted from Colony septics. That is proven. The lagoon is polluted and needs to be cleaned up. Proven. The sewers are being forced onto the butterly area becasue Malibu delayed so long getting onto updated, approved septic systems , approved by the RWB. Proven. Tapia discharges into the lagoon. Proven ...The conspiracies are hot air UNTIL THEY ARE PROVEN!
Stephenie Glas March 16, 2012 at 03:29 PM
Because hes already sucked people into dressing up as Kermit the Frog, chaining themselves to heavy equipment, and jumping on the bandwagon of misinformation. Too late to back down now I guess. His followers have enough misinformation to continue their fight based on lies and made up theories. I think there has got to be SOME people who are bright enought to realize now that they can redirect their focus on other, better candidates (Hans Lentz). To continue backing this guy, even though he may be their surfing buddy, is foolish , if you want a strong, resonable candidate on the Council.
Steve Woods March 16, 2012 at 03:30 PM
Jees Louise Mr Biken , you weren't kidding about the " Surfs Up :LA Andy Lyon " episode 7 !!! Wow !
Andy Lyon March 16, 2012 at 04:38 PM
Marky, Maybe you should have been at the City Council meeting that night to see what was really happening. You would have seen John Sibert selling out and siding with outside interests that stand to make money on the lagoon project. Maybe you should go to the City web site and watch the whole meeting. He sits on the commission that will be doing the project. Thing is that I didn't yell at him first, he yelled at me with the microphone to be quite. He was allowing someone from the SMBRC who wasn't even a speaker that night come up and skew 'science' on behalf of the project and I could see he was throwing the lagoon under the bus. I had been a speaker that night and had many historical photos and the card board enlargement that demonstrated why the project wouldn't work and he wasn't going to bring me back up. I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to stand up and scream at these council meetings where nothing gets done and you sit there for hours. Quite frankly I'm glad I did it and feel that it was what brought so much attention to this issue that was trying to be swept right under our noses and helped get it stopped for now. And how great is it that Pamela, who is the one calling for the sheriff, is now one of the anti-lagoon projects staunchest supporters !!!
Stephenie Glas March 16, 2012 at 04:55 PM
Dont worry Marky, we are posting the forum that I recorded the other night. You will see for yourself how Andy and everyone did. The video clearly shows who the whiney, fakers are and who the true , prepared, intelligent Candidates are.
Andy Lyon March 16, 2012 at 05:07 PM
I'm curious how well you think our council is doing with the Water Board and CCC if they can allow them to try and ram a sewer down our throats so the whole Civic Center will get developed and dig up one of the most sacred places in Malibu to make Legacy Park TWO in the lagoon ? How many times do you let the gorilla have its way with you before stop saying that you are getting somewhere with him? I say enough ! If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything . As far as the Vans clip goes.... The clip on the beach... that had to do with my 16year old daughter and a 20 something year old surfer...what can I say? Don't mess with my cub! The other stuff ... I wasn't planning on going into politics when this was made. funny though ...that's Steve Woods coming in to back me up ! Since you want to list all my credits let me ad this one too : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qf8OGLqE1s Marky...if you want to actually speak to me I would love to talk to you about anything. Have a great day
Steve Woods March 16, 2012 at 05:17 PM
Great Suburu commercial ! Sincerely, it really is . Better scripted and more flattering than the other clips .
Sarah Lee March 17, 2012 at 08:36 PM
Dear Malibu Friends, The way this Mr. Andy Lyon speaks of women in the video posted here bring me to absolute shock that he is supported by anybody here in our town. The blatant exploitation of women is simply disgusting. The cursing and utter disrespect toward others that comes from Mr. Lyon's mouth render him not capable of any sensible persons respect. I am astonished that he is being glorified here in our town, and respectfully ask that he be removed from the list of 7 candidates. God forbid, he is elected and we are embarrassed with him as our City Councilman...these fits of rage he displays are absurd. Really now, he cant be taken seriously and would destroy our reputation as a City. My husband has frequently complained of Mr. Lyon at surfrider for being a cruel man, but now I understand what he has been talking about all along.
hellwood March 18, 2012 at 07:51 PM
RE: "Stephenie Glas 8:24 am on Thursday, March 15, 2012 Super scoopers and water dropping birds dont fight house fires" you are sooooo WRONG about the super scoopers. my 92 year old grandfather can tell you all about it, but then again, why would you listen to someone with almost 100 years of experience?
hellwood March 18, 2012 at 07:56 PM
Since the distinguished and well behaved politicians of Malibu have not properly addressed many issues that concern the majority of the Malibu residents, maybe its time to give the savages a chance?
Brantley Watson March 18, 2012 at 09:00 PM
Please remember to keep all debate civil. We greatly appreciate public input, but in a respectful manner.
Stephenie Glas March 18, 2012 at 11:39 PM
HELLWOOD, Super Scoopers are for fighting brush fires, not house fires. The fire department , in the event of a brush fire coordinates attack on the fire both from the ground and the air. But the water dropping aircraft drops water on the brush. If they dropped water or other agents on a house, people could die, especially the firefighters inside of the house fighting the fire, or residents trying to save their house. Ask your grandpa. Maybe if the house was in the middle of nowhere , surrounded by brush, or forest, and the pilots had it confirmed that the house was evacuated, then they may drop on the house. Im talking about water dropping aircraft as it relates to Malibu though.
hellwood March 18, 2012 at 11:50 PM
RE: "Stephenie Glas 4:39 pm on Sunday, March 18, 2012 HELLWOOD, 
Super Scoopers are for fighting brush fires, not house fires. The fire department , in the event of a brush fire coordinates attack on the fire both from the ground and the air. But the water dropping aircraft drops water on the brush. If they dropped water or other agents on a house, people could die, especially the firefighters inside of the house fighting the fire, or residents trying to save their house. Ask your grandpa. Maybe if the house was in the middle of nowhere , surrounded by brush, or forest, and the pilots had it confirmed that the house was evacuated, then they may drop on the house. Im talking about water dropping aircraft as it relates to Malibu though." Please correct me if I am wrong, but the question was: "How do you plan to better prepare the citizens of Malibu for the next fire? Do you believe the last fire was handled well, and how will the Corral Canyon Volunteer Fire Department affect the next fire that will be coming soon?" ...so how is your response regarding super scoopers relevant when the topic is brushfires?????
hellwood March 19, 2012 at 12:05 AM
@Stephenie Glas Andy was right on. Why instigate? If super scoopers werent effective in saving lives and property, we would not have been spending a fortune leasing them from the canadians year after year FOR the firefighters like youself. right?
Stephenie Glas March 19, 2012 at 12:44 AM
Because Hellwood, Andy Lyon brought up super scoopers in his answer above to the question about bettering community preparedness for the next brush fire. I wrote the question. And I had hoped the candidates would know about the County's "get Up and Go" program for homeowners to look at regarding brush fires. It wasnt supposed to be a trick question. The fire department is always as ready as they can be. Ask your grandpa Hellwood, the water dropping aircraft will not drop on house fires unless for sure it is vacant. If firemen are fighting structure fires on the ground, the planes/birds wont drop on them...they might accidentally get wet, but the intent is to hit the brush. Plus Im talking about Malibu specifically, where the houses are densely packed in a brush area. The house fires will be covered by strike teams on the ground. That's all. Maybe you didn't see the question before you wrote your comment. Dunno...off to Mammoth.
hellwood March 19, 2012 at 04:48 AM
RE: "Sarah Lee 1:36 pm on Saturday, March 17, 2012 Dear Malibu Friends, The way this Mr. Andy Lyon speaks of women in the video posted here bring me to absolute shock that he is supported by anybody here in our town. The blatant exploitation of women is simply disgusting." You mean when he referred to women as "chicks"? ...or when he described how "hot" a woman was?...or the part where he vividly described a man pleasuring a woman?...or did I just watch the wrong video?
Marshall Thompson March 19, 2012 at 02:48 PM
Right on. Occupy Legacy Park!
Carla March 22, 2012 at 04:58 PM
Thank you Andy for bringing up important issues in this campaign and not settling for business as usual. The voice of the people is the strongest thing we have right now. If you don't want sewers, massive development, the lagoon bulldozed--speak up and show up. A good place to start is 630 PM this Monday night at City Hall at the Council Meeting. Preserve Malibu.
hellwood March 25, 2012 at 03:23 AM
Andy, what are you planning on doing about all of the clowns kooking it out at Malibu? As a city council member, maybe you could help introduce all of the vals to a new sport that they can do out in the valley? Haha! All joking aside, maybe the city could close the point for a locals only day once a year with local bands, art exhibits, BBQ's, and a halfpipe on the beach? In the evening we could have bonfires and a full on luau. Lets make this town fun again! Oh, and how do you feel about the ban on fishing between paradise cove and point dume?
Wendi Werner March 25, 2012 at 04:52 AM
The MLPA is the work of the some of the same agencies that want to dig up our beloved lagoon.
hellwood March 25, 2012 at 05:18 AM
@wendi yeah, we are screwed. they have all the money, and probably have scientists that are also lawyers, who are so slick, they could sell you a bag of crap, and convince you that its chocolate
Edmund Hampypamps March 27, 2012 at 04:52 PM
Andy trolls Facebook late at night insulting and defaming people who dont agree with his hysterical nonsense. You sir are not fit to lead a Cub Scout pack much less city council . Quit while you are ahead
Marshall Thompson March 27, 2012 at 05:03 PM
Edmund Hampypamps, interesting name, don't think we're met, invisible before this on Patch, Google, Facebook. Hmmm, FOS? (Friend Of Sharon). For all his possible defects, Andy Lyon is laser-focused on preserving Malibu Lagoon and he has succeeded in making it a major public issue. Good on ya, Andy!
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