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Malibu Lighting Ordinance Could be in the Works

Preserving Malibu's remaining dark skies will likely be at the heart of the possible ordinance, which will go before the planning commission next week.

An ordinance seeking to protect Malibu's remaining dark skies and provide lighting guidelines for future development could be in the works.

Commissioners will consider recommending that the City Council initiate an amendment to the Zoning Ordinance to establish a lighting ordinance at its Feb. 19 meeting at Malibu City Hall.

Planning Commission Chair John Mazza brought up the idea to introduce a recommendation for a lighting ordinance at the Feb. 4 meeting following a presentation by James Benya, director of the Advanced Lighting Design Program at California Lighting Technology Center at UC Davis.

"Light pollution is a growing problem worldwide," Benya said in the hour-long presentation.

Benya laid out a model lighting ordinance, pointing to Anchorage and Tucson as the most progressive.

The ordinance creating zones of light within communities, ranging from conservative to liberal amounts of lighting.

"You could look at your community and create different standards for different parts of your community," said Benya, who was one of the authors of the International Dark Sky Association/Illuminating Engineering Society Model Lighting Ordinance.

Malibu Patch will have more on this story soon.

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Marianne Riggins February 11, 2013 at 11:42 am
I look forward to hearing more about adopting a lighting ordinance in Malibu, we in Malibu should establish guidelines for good lighting. What is great about International Dark Skies is that they are not about no lighting, but about quality lighting.
Jenny Mullen February 11, 2013 at 12:06 pm
YES!
Tom Bates February 11, 2013 at 12:28 pm
Really Dumb! Is that light pollution I see in Santa Monica, El Segundo, Manhatttan Beach at night.
Light pollution is a emotional mental disease who like to live in the dark!!. At the High School at night it is simply a nuisance to a residential neighborhood.
Marshall Thompson February 11, 2013 at 02:06 pm
"Conservative to liberal" amounts of lighting.." what a strange choice of words, as if an intentional move to politicize light pollution in Red vs Blue state terms. Anyway, I am all for a lighting ordinance and strong enforcement that is also retroactive in order to preserve our precious starry night skies. All we need to do is look toward Kanan Dume Road from our house to see the factory-like glow from the Valley every night, fading into the velvety dark skies reaching out over the Malibu shoreline.
J. February 11, 2013 at 02:44 pm
We moved to Malibu for the sea and the stars. Please preserve the dark night sky!!!
R Y A N February 11, 2013 at 03:46 pm
Lighting Design is a discipline like any other design field. Good lighting design inherently complies with Dark Skies principles. Lighting up the sky is wasted energy. Targeting light for the proper use or application, without overlighting, is a calculated science. Those wishing to skip the calculations (or good judgment) won't obtain desired outcomes, and will result in sky glow, glare, and overlighting.
Sometimes one has to experience good outdoor lighting to know what is possible, what is better, and why.
Hans Laetz February 11, 2013 at 04:01 pm
I would feel a lot better about this if the existing light ordinances were enforced. Commercial lots emit glare far beyond property lines. New subdivisions and houses have floodlights pointing straight up, in direct violations if specific permit limitations.
The new Nobu is lit up like the Oxnard Auto Msll, with very bright light spill onto PCH. 24/7. I am from Tucson, where we learned that enacting the light spill ordinance is not even a quarter of the necessary effort. Enforcement. That's the issue.
Judi Hutchinson February 11, 2013 at 07:35 pm
This is like closing the barn door after the horse bolted.
Has anyone noted the lights on the proposed esplanade? Check out the lights at the school! I now have a permanent glow in my night sky. When Trancas gets their lights, it will be one continues glow across the Zuma Beach area.
Hans Laetz February 11, 2013 at 08:31 pm
Permanent? I thought they are turned off at 7:30, and are used only up to 3 nights a week, abd at that only for 3 1/2 months a year? And then on 16 nights til 10:30.
Judi, that is not a permanent glow and you know it. It is less than two percent of nighttime hours.
J. Flo February 11, 2013 at 11:43 pm
I really feel for you guys living in Malibu Park!
David Armstead February 12, 2013 at 12:42 am
What about the new spot lights that Sunset Restaurant at Westward Beach, just installed above the parking lot and on top of the building pointing out across the sand to the surf for the benefit of their patrons? Permits?? It is bright and obnoxious to what otherwise is an excellent star gazing spot.
Cindy Vandor February 12, 2013 at 01:43 am
Trancas Starbucks temp lights are blindingly bright and a hazard to drivers on PCH. Nobu parking lot lights also. City Staff: Do your jobs please and enforce existing light ordinances. City Council: Negligence is criminalized when public safety is at stake.
Judi Hutchinson February 12, 2013 at 03:24 pm
Hans, I know, what I know, when I know it. I have a permanent glow! I am referring to all the security lights and parking lights the school has on all night.
My neighbor has been discussing this with the school. He has been trying to get them to change them out for lights with less pollution. It hasn't helped! The stadium lights are another matter, all together. You get blasted with those when you come around the corner. It is really bad for my neighbors. I get sky glow when they are on but I haven't trimmed my trees so I don't get it in my living room like I use to. Then again I lost my ocean view that way.
Hans Laetz February 12, 2013 at 11:54 pm
You are right about the security, Judi, and I have joined you for the past five years to demand an improved approach.
The district must come up with a master dark skies plan for existing lights. I understand that plan has been delivered to the city. We shall see.
Marshall Thompson February 13, 2013 at 12:49 am
Hans, what's up with the intersection at Trancas & PCH now that they have taken the old Starbucks etc bldg. down to the studs. It looks like the developers might put in a right turn lane on PCH after all. Got any intel to share? Thx for all your great work on this project.
sandy90265 February 13, 2013 at 08:03 pm
Absolutely! We could see the night sky, dream and still have light where needed. It would be worth the effort.
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Max June 18, 2013 at 09:02 am
Firemen are my true heroes. Not once, but twice, have they saved my house over the years, as wellRead More as where I worked most of my career. We cannot thank them enough for their yeomen efforts and hard work. When they are on the lines, we always provide them with food and drink, which is the least that we can do. We also welcome them when they make their annual inspections of properties here to ensure that homeowners clear their brush. When I was in school, we were visited by Firemen, who handed out badges and booklets on fire safety. I was proud to wear my "Junior Fireman" badge back then, and feel the same today!
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Yvonne Carrison June 17, 2013 at 09:24 am
Luv the rainbow over our heavenly canyon, we are truly blessed to live here! Gratitude
Snookie Ravioli June 17, 2013 at 08:32 am
I doubt it matters much. The Malibu mayor is no more than the presiding officer of the councilRead More meetings. In a council-manager form of government, which Malibu has, the mayor has very little power--a good thing in Malibu considering its history. The mayor in Malibu is a ceremonial position and s/he has no more actual power than the other council members. The game of musical chairs is not a bad thing in the Malibu council. Consider the alternative!
Snookie Ravioli June 17, 2013 at 08:44 am
A follow-up to Tom Brady's idea of annelected mayor. That woukd require a change in the form ofRead More government in Malibu to a Mayor-Manager form. The Mayor-Manager form is best for larger cities. Most cities the size of Malibu have the Council-Manager form because experience shows it works best for small cities. Having an elected mayor with the power of an elected mayor could create more problems than it solves. It would completely change the political environent in Malibu, and not for the better. Having weak, rotating mayors serves Malibu well.
Dee Rivellino June 17, 2013 at 06:07 pm
How do I explain why we have such a turnover in Mayors.? Because in intelligent communities theRead More answer would sound very pathetic. ..Well, let me start from the beginning when no one on the first, second, third, fourth, etc. Councils could decide how long the Mayor should serve ..so some genius came up with rotation and actually that's ok because all the Mayor does anyway is pose for pictures with the current flock of so called Celebrities. This goes on the list of why Malibu is always so different from other normal town around us.(An article I wrote months ago in the Surfside news) The Council meets, accomplishes little, a new Mayor is selected and life goes on. ... Elected officials(that's a joke too since only less than 3,000 people ever show up to vote out of 13,000 residents).. You can't ask questions like why our Mayor moves like the waves of the Ocean when most of the people in Malibu have no clue whats going on behind those thick doors at City Hall....the ones NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. Good for Burt, its only taken him 18 months to ask the hard questions.
Ted Vaill June 11, 2013 at 12:24 pm
Sounds like a great father, like his son. My father died in 1989, of cancer, but was a happy,Read More positive man to the end. My mother remarried nine years later, and remarked before she died at age 98 that she was blessed to be married to two wonderful men.
Max June 12, 2013 at 01:46 am
Dear Burt, A very toughing piece about your dear father. If only more fathers these days had theRead More values and character that your father had, this world would be a much better, more caring and loving place. I, too, had a father that was very giving and supportive of me. As both of my parents were holocaust survivors, my upbringing was greatly influenced by their horrific experiences in Poland, Czechoslovakia and Germany: losing 80% of our families, being in over a dozen different concentration camps and facing death and torture continuously. It’s amazing that they were able to lead “normal” lives upon immigrating to the US. Never finishing high school in Poland and not speaking a word of English, he attended night school (Fairfax High), worked during the days in the subcontractor business (he manufactured venetian blinds, screens and louver windows, all from scratch, decades before they were imported), became a citizen (as did my late Mom) and raised a family. They eked out a living (lower middle class), sent my younger brother and I to Hebrew school every day after public school classes, encouraged us to strive in school and somehow supported my hobby of being a radio amateur and my brother in violin studies. My parents always wanted me to become an electronics engineer (probably based on the dream my father had before WW2). Several of his proudest moments were when I got accepted into the physics grad schools of Princeton, Harvard, Caltech, Stanford and UCLA; when I received my PhD from Caltech; when I authored a cover feature article in Scientific American; and when I married my Beshert (soul mate). As a kid, I had a mild connection to you, Burt. I loved rulers, be they the fancy compact metallic ones that retracted by the push of a button, the ones that had a mechanical crank to reel in the ruler or the foldable wooden rulers (that I always associated with a magic trick), which I would use in school, the lab and measuring Ham radio antennas that I built as a kid. All this was influenced by my dear father, equipped with rulers of all kinds, which he used on a daily basis when precisely measuring windows and door frames, manufacturing venetian blinds, screen doors, etc. As a 5-year old, my father would take me to his 2-man shop and, as they worked, I would run around the place with various rulers and magnets in tow, measuring everything in sight and picking up nails and hardware. I guess the only difference between us is that you became a ruler and I became one who is ruled. Happy Father’s Day, Burt!
Sandra Peltola June 8, 2013 at 08:14 am
Time to support Vital Zuman Farm, 60 years of service to the community. If you have not been to theRead More farm, you must, before another season goes by! Get your nature on, see the crops growing, meet friends, eat good food, listen to music outdoors, view exceptional art; ALL AT VITAL ZUMAN FARM on Saturday June 22, 2013 from 12:00 noon till 6:00pm. More Info: 310-924-2210
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Lisa Knickmeyer, L.Ac., DA June 7, 2013 at 01:05 pm
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Mizzy Pacheco June 7, 2013 at 05:37 pm
Thanks. Moon rise.
Ashley W. Lewis June 9, 2013 at 05:06 pm
Ashley Lewis Thanks for sharing the beautiful photo of the fabulous moon and rocks. Curious whatRead More kind of camera and lens was used?
Mizzy Pacheco June 9, 2013 at 08:29 pm
Thanks, that was taken with a canon 5d mark ii with the cannon f4 70-200mm set at about 125mm
Lois Livoti June 5, 2013 at 03:52 pm
Wow - how fantastic to see Jim Palmer's Malibu Vineyards on the map for world class wine making.Read More Also I want to congratulate you on your recent "Best of Class" award and 95 point rating from the Los Angeles International wine competition for your 2010 Malibu Vineyards Estate Syrah. Well done!!!!
kim devane June 6, 2013 at 10:15 am
Well done Jim! You are putting Malibu on the map for world class wine. Congratulations! kim &Read More larry
This sycamore tree on Trancas Canyon Road was six inches -- and five votes -- away from getting ground up to make way for four more unsafe, angle parking places on Trancas Canyon Rd. Now, can we get rid of the numbskull loading zone at PCH's corner?
J. Flo June 4, 2013 at 02:11 pm
I found the meeting, the speakers and the Planning Commission to be very impressive. Well-thoughtRead More out, intelligent.
Hans Laetz June 4, 2013 at 07:33 pm
So interesting to hear the applicant's lawyer explain that the billboard was appropriate becauseRead More "this is a commercial area." Oh, dear dear dear. That sort of explains the whole problem.
Proud Elitist June 10, 2013 at 06:54 am
First the Paige Sports Arena sign at Univ Missouri Columbia comes down. Next Trancas sign comesRead More down. Girl, you got some bad luck with signs.